My problem with certain philosophical Ideas


This is a challenge

and personaly I need this resolved

so if any person is brave enough

answer these questions


I have always had the same problem with Hare Krishna and Christians and practicaly every other religion which I have reveiwed

People always get "saved" either by their Guru or God or whatever and then they just seem to pretend that all of the sudden I am perfect. Practicaly I know this for a fact there are allot of people, ok Allot isnt the word 99% who I have met. Who fallow this underground pillosophy I like to call "Fake it until I make it" This dosnt impress me at all. In fact I call it cheating. Let me dress a certain way and let me act a certain way and let the whole word see a diferent image of me. The reasons are even worse. I have to uphold my reputation and every other various off shoot of that Idea. Basicaly saveing face. Some one please please answer this.

I know plenty of "Regular" people who externaly have all kinds of minor faults yet they love, care , have more faith and act more genuinly holy than most "saintly" people I know.

Some one come up with a smart ass answer for that

Well whats the solution

I can find but one philosopher who happens to cool my burning heart

"The lord forgets the shortcomes of those who remember him"

Madhvacarya (taken from his comentary on the upanishads)

I'll explain this answer

I dont blame people for wanting to be pure but I say that untill you stop playing games with God them you wont get the purity you want.

I am not blaming people but for gods sake I know too many too too many people who are stuck in this spiritual place where they are suffering like hell and I know how to get them out and their pain it hurts me so I cant stand it any more.

The way I see it people are givin a vision of what spiritual is suposed to be, not what it means to them and so they try and act and I mean act that way hopeing one day they will lose there own self and become someone else.

and by the way as far as I know that is Mayavada philosophy or in other words the doctorine of illusion

the Tatvavada or the doctorine of Truth is that you have to offer your self to God

You are who you are, Its called the different qualitys of Jiva

but the fact is the watter pot is full, the tank is full and the ocean is full

God accepts what devotion you give him

its not a matter of if you are the Ocean or a water pot they both are full

If I am crazy or wrong please tell me

but think about what I have said